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What's the Litmus Test?

  • Nov. 30th, 2007 at 6:59 PM
B&WMe
I was just reading a post on Verla Kay that was kind of depressing... Verla Kay's message boards are a place where writers (and frequently agents and editors) go to see what's what in the world of children's publishing. I'm a consistent lurker (especially as industry friends will call me and say, Did you see what so-and-so wrote on VK?...and then I feel the need to bring up a new window and see what all the hub-bub is about. And just so you know, it's never as exciting as it sounded in their breathless taunting voice. NEVER) but I've never posted there, but today I was reading an entry that was titled something like, "Another one of those quitting posts" and it asked a good, serious question:

How do you know if you're good? When do you stop?

One of my favorite questions to ask new agents (which I might not be able to ask after this) is:

How long are you giving yourself until you have to decide if you want another job?

And if they have an answer... well, let's put it this way. If they say, Ok, I'm giving myself three years... Within three years, that person will be G.O.N.E.. I spend a lot of time with the people who respond, "What do you mean? Why the hell would I want another job?" 

It may not be a practical way of looking at a business that is very, very difficult to break into (and then even more difficult to sustain a livelihood), but it's the only way.

Ok, so I'm going to tell you how to tell if you're good, or at the very least to tell when you should stop.


 If you CAN stop... stop. Seriously. Just stop. Why go through all the bullshit? Writing isn't that much fun (unless you're weird, and some of you are... and think writing is fun...). Writing isn't fun!!! It's hard!!! It involves all kinds of skills that most human beings don't possess or even really want to develop! THIS STUFF IS HARD. If you can -- RUN AWAY!!!!!!! If you'd be happier sewing clothes, go do that. If you'd be happier farting, go do that. Do anything you can, if there is anything else that makes you happy.

...Ok, well you're still reading.
(shaking head) Masochist.

Well, now that we've both figured out that you're not a logical human being...

Why are you trying to be logical about this?
Publishing is entirely subjective (and often illogical) in that ... a book isn't worth a dime until someone is willing to put a value on it.
Why give that privilege solely to editors? or even agents?

Sit down, decide that your book is worth something.
Done. Your writing is now "good."
That wasn't even that hard, eh?

Now, realize that your writing is complete crap and that you have to constantly get better and better and better and better.
And you do this by READING and WRITING.

This weird juxtaposition should be really easy for you, since you're not really... y'know, rational.
You are a writer after all.

Here that, I just called you a writer.

I kinda just want you to give yourself permission to be a writer.
Don't be ashamed of it.
When people ask you... You can tell them, "I'm a writer." It's ok, i give you permission.
And if they ask what you've written, tell them. Happily.
And when they ask if they can go buy it in the bookstore, you have two options: you can blush and hide your face in shame, or you can say, "Not yet, but soon."

And then go home and read and write and read and write and read and write (and if you get bored, do some reading or some writing) -- and then, guess what?

You're a writer.
You'll also smell, because I didn't give you any time to shower ... and it's hard to read and write in the shower... although they do have those waterproof books (you might want to buy those) for kids and people who have sex in showers... not a lot of variety, but do what you must.

SPEND LESS TIME WORRYING ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE GOOD or even if you are going to be published and more time reading and writing.

Now for an easier question:
How do you know when OTHER people think you're good?
Oh... well... that's another post entirely.
:)
xDia

Comments

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[info]chrysoula wrote:
Dec. 1st, 2007 02:04 am (UTC)
Thank you. I mean that.
[info]green_knight wrote:
Dec. 1st, 2007 02:23 am (UTC)
Silly. Writers don't shower. Writers take baths, because one can read in the bath, and if one is sufficiently careful, one can even write in the bath.

Or one can invest in waterproof markers, but a five-minute shower is prime time for going over that scene just once more and making sure it's perfect. You've got pen and paper ready for when you get out, haven't you?

Thanks for the encouraging words!
[info]jen_deben wrote:
Dec. 1st, 2007 05:56 am (UTC)
How do you know when OTHER people think you're good?
Oh... well... that's another post entirely.


That's the real question, however. I know I'm good; so why can't I find an agent who agrees with me on that point?
[info]phaenix_ash wrote:
Dec. 1st, 2007 11:42 am (UTC)
thank you so much for mentioning verla kay - you have no idea how helpful an evening of lurking on the forums was to me!
[info]adamselzer wrote:
Dec. 1st, 2007 12:38 pm (UTC)
If you'd be happier farting, go do that

Do they give contracts for that? I'd sure hate to see what the escalator entails!
[info]dulcimeoww wrote:
Dec. 1st, 2007 12:41 pm (UTC)
Hmm...

"How long are you giving yourself until you have to decide if you want another job? "

You know, I get that question all the time. I've even asked it of myself (note: I am not a writer, I run a webcomic company). The industry I work in isn't terribly stable, the primary business model is heavily reliant on other people liking your stuff and being willing to volunteer to give you money for it, and our income is consequently not that reliable. Yet neither I nor my husband (who is a writer and an artist... it's a comic, afterall) have ever really planned to give it up. Sure, the idea is there in the back of our minds that if it gets too hard we can always quit and go find "real" jobs... but we both know that'll never actually happen.

The sad truth is that we really don't WANT to do anything else. No matter how much we crave stability, no matter how scared we occasionally get, no matter how frustrating it is to look at a budget and wince... the fact is, we're happy despite or perhaps even because of all those illogical challenges inherent to the job, and we're committed to making it work anyways. So, to answer the question... I'm not giving myself any time before I have to decide if I want another job. I've already decided I don't. Sometimes I do forget that, though... so thanks for the reminder. ^-^'
[info]need_to_read wrote:
Dec. 1st, 2007 07:25 pm (UTC)
Taxi
The when do you quit question always reminds me of an old episode of Taxi. Ted Danson's character, who wanted to be an actor but was driving a cab, had given himself five years to make it. It was the last day of his five years. He spent the whole episode whining and moaning but determined to quit because he hadn't made it big (or at all, really) in five years. At the stroke of midnight or whatever, he came up with a solution. He'd give himself another five years. Voila. Problem solved (and if any of you have seen this more recently than I have, like in the last ten or fifteen years, well forgive me if I've got the details wrong, but the gist is the same).

I used to be an actress and everyone always tells actors the same thing that Dia just said about writing, if you can do something else, do it. I think it's true. Yeah...I miss acting sometimes, but it wasn't that hard to walk away from. So what'd I do? Yeah...I chose writing instead! Hehe. No one ever said I was the sharpest knife in the drawer. The difference is that writing IS fun (and a lot of work). And you get to read and call it "research".

Nice to have you back, Dia.

cheers,
Joelle
http://www.joelleanthony.com
[info]coloradowriter wrote:
Dec. 2nd, 2007 12:54 am (UTC)
Thank you for this post. Sometimes it's what I need to hear.
[info]sachaw wrote:
Dec. 2nd, 2007 05:11 pm (UTC)
I can't belive it took me this long to realize you're back. I'm a happy, happy girl. Thanks for the post.
[info]bookshop wrote:
Jan. 29th, 2008 12:55 am (UTC)

What a wonderful post. ♥
[info]nickigreenwood wrote:
Jan. 31st, 2008 10:48 am (UTC)
Great Post, Nadia
This really cuts through all the b.s. and gets to the heart of what a writer needs to believe about him/herself - and with humor. Awesome!
[info]herzog34 wrote:
May. 1st, 2008 05:23 pm (UTC)
Litmus test
Thanks Nadia, that post is refreshing. Fifteen years of scribbling for me, and despite the speed of my egotism, self-doubt is never far behind.
Cheers,
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